Thursday, 30 May 2013

the 4th way- part one : retributive justice

 
THE FOURTH WAY : REFORMATIVE JUSTICE

( Extract from “ Victorious”- Collected Prison writings by Paul R Denton)

An insult to one is an injury to all” ( Anon.)

Human history is a power struggle between Knowledge& Empowerment vs Prejudice & Politics.

The outcome of any decision is not always based on what appears to be fair , right and just. But every decision you make or is made...has a consequence- good or bad on the collective consciousness. I humbly submit society must evolve its outlook in the 21st century to meet the Dawning of a Golden Age of Justice...a new kind of justice...a 4th way!

The horizon of this illuminated ,enlightened approach must of sorts begin from somewhere and must of sorts go somewhere. That goal... those who we call “ reformers” ...all have ONE idea in common; and ONE emotion motivating that objective, it is the emotion that directs the genius of the human spirit to seek “ balance”....to suffer the roads' travails to achieve that harmony and to boldly go where none have dared go before! All these great men and women in history articulated major shifts in HOW we as society think , and or act.

To most it was a thankless task ; and to a select few that emerged as beacons of light in the mud of obscurity ; we fail- too often to recognise their contribution to the evolution of humanities conscious awareness of itself. The people who are under the yoke of an unrighteous ruler or regime have always suffered the poverty of morality and common sense. It is this fact that is the key to understanding a broken society – and how and what needs to be done to make it better.

This is “ reformative justice...”

...and this should always be the aim of those who seek it – ie: to make society better and a better place in which to live.

This should be – must be- the benchmark of all those who seek real justice for all!-But who defines this? And by what means? To answer this we need to look at all the existing forms of justice systems; and , how successful they have been thusfar.

1.RETRIBUTIVE JUSTICE

At the core of how justice is perceived throughout the ages is the administration of punishment for an offense. The severity of the punishment acts as a deterrent for others...an “ eye for an eye...a tooth for a tooth”...retribution and vengeance sends a clear message ( they go hand in hand actually)- “ do this , and you WILL be punished!”

Unfortunately, this way of thinking permeates even modern societies and penal systems in the conservative West and most developing countries.

Retributive justice doesn't seek to reform, rehabilitate or restore... ; it seeks only to instill fear...and discipline- and thereby to contain the situation and control the outbreak of a situation. Kings chopped peoples heads off in the Middle Ages, judges put people to death by hanging and despots created new inventive ways and means to torture and create pain. There are so many examples of the “ successful” rule of despots and tyrants through the usage of extreme retributive justice. Vlad Tepes the person that inspired Bram Stokers Dracula impaled the OttomonTurks with wooden stakes up their anal passages and planted them in the ground – he became known as “Vlad the Impaler... “ and whilst they screamed and struggled in agony – naked and bloodied on those wooden
poles up their asses... he would have a feast – a banquet for all the VIPs in his kingdom... it was sadistic..and it was middle ages entertainment. “Gleeful punishment” Bloodsport...

Yet the Pope at the time bestowed on him – on Vlad ...” The Order of the Dragon” as the defender of the Catholic faith in Europe from the onslaught of the Mussulman hordes. Dragon translated in local Dachian as “ Dracul” and in fact was transliterated by the public as “ devil”...”Dracula”. To the Muslims he was indeed the devil incarnate with his bizarre justice.

In London retributive justice for murderers was at one point to be chained to the walled embankment next to the Thames River at low tide. As the tide of the Thames rose- the murderer would squirm and struggle and scream for mercy before he drowned....the populace would binge drink and jeer and joke at the object of their sport...their bloodsport... hangings- drawings – drownings and beheadings had to be public- this was an element necessary for retributive justice to make it a deterrent for the masses...

It was said that Vlad Tepes of Transylvania had a beautiful golden goblet next to a water well in the middle of the Town Square in Bram. It was placed without guards or security next to the well where anyone could use it to drink cool water from...but on pain of death ...it was never..nver to be removed from the confines of the square... and it was never stolen...never.

Did it work? Retributive justice? - yes..it did.

At the heart of any modern fair system of justice there is and probably always should e an element of punishment..but not sadistic punishment....history has shown retributive justice creates deep resentment and even injustice...

Indeed- retribution does not solve crime or stop criminals from committing further crimes.... retributive justice taken to its extreme may stop crime being committed ; but it doesn't create a moral or fair society. In fact it usually undermines democratic principles; civil liberties and human rights. It has a place but its place in an evolved society ...a civilized society- is and always should be ...a last resort.

It is like a defibrillator for the heart- when the heart stops or ceases to function properly – it needs an electric shock ...that is what retributive justice is and does. It doesn't necessarily restore the balance nor does it maintain moral authority- it is a plaster- a deterrent- a stopgap...thats all.

The electric shock of retributive justice is there to send out a message to the people...the masses... don't mess with us!...the Nazis- the Fascists- the Romans- Genghis Khan- The Stalinist and the Troskyites – the Stasi- apartheid South Africa...and even George Bushes America ARE ALL GREAT PROPONENTS OF RETRIBUTIVE JUSTICE...ALL WRONG!

But over the last century justice has evolved as society has evolved- a civilization- it is said is measured by how the people or a people treat the worst of the worst...in retribution there is NO thought of mercy- or fairness- rehabilitation...or restoration. The guilty must suffer – period.
Oscar Wilde once commented on Queen Victoria's criticism of flushing toilets and subsequent removal of them from HMP Wandsworth- “ If this is how Queen Victoria treats her prisoners , she doesn't deserve to have any!”

Prison was until 50 years ago a place where a person was simply punished... a place of “ atonement”...if hell could be mirrored or reproduced on Earth then according to proponents of retributive justice – they should be beaten- humiliated and even buggered up the ass ...for the length and breadth of their prison sentence. In fact they should be forced to do slave labor ...and should learn NEVER to challenge authority or even to question it.

EVER.

But...as history has amply proved to us...retributive justice taken on its own... does not work...why? Its simple...
An eye for and eye , and a tooth for a tooth makes the world blind and toothless...it is dehumanizing ...stinking thinking....

Bonny & Clyde are two prime examples of the effects of retributive justice ...this wrong way of thinking. In a modern context... the recent beheading in Woolwich is another example of retributive justice gone wrong.

So sadistically was Clyde abused during his sentence by the prison governor that it “ triggered” him to embark on a vicious crime and killing spree that has fascinated us ever since. He even went back to the prison he was incarcerated before and dealt with the governor...permanently.

The system has lost its moral authority in Great Britain and America … and society at large is paying the price...this big society has become a PIG society...!

If the prison system thinks like this; history has shown ...society always pays... ( as was seen in the London riots)...

If the justice system thinks this way – people become animals and crime becomes rampant and unfettered... cruel and merciless.

This kind of justice actually creates crime!

Creating offenders by harsh – sadistic and inhumane treatment certainly is proof enough that retributive justice on its own … does not work!

The bad become worse; and the good become bad... its that simple. Offending behavior cant be “ cured” by retributive justice alone. True rehabilitation begins with legislation and good governance. It begins with humanising offenders . The loss of ones liberty is punishment enough on its own!-

The loss of humanity is indeed a crime against humanity!

Unfortunately, in the worlds second oldest justice system this archaic way of thinking still exists in the mindsets of those who impose the punishment and make up the rules. And to a degree it exists in the penology systems of the worlds most modern democracies.

Retributive justice creates crime. Injustice. Resentment. It does little to address the root causes of criminal behavior. In short its NOT the way of the future ...but belongs to the past...

Retributive justice by definition is regressive in this 21st Century.
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The Newer Lords Prayer song- the words.


This is a song which Ive been working on with a friend I baptized in Israel - I dedicate this prayer to anyone who is struggling with forgiveness.Especially in this day of intolerance, persecution and betrayal.

Its called the Lords Prayer song... enjoy...



The Lords Prayer Song By Paul Denton & Simon Woodward

Our Father who Art in Heaven- Hallowed be Thy Name!
Our Father who Art in Heaven- Hal-lo-wed be Thy Name!

Thy Kingdom Come- Thy Will be Done!
On Earth as it is in Heaven!

Thy Kingdom Come- Thy Will be Done-
On Earth as it is in Hea-ven!

Give Us this day Our Daily Bread-
And Forgive Us Our Tres-pass-es...!

As We Forgive-...as We Forgive-
-Those who've Trespassed against Us.

And Forgive Us Our trespasses-
As We Forgive...as We Forgive...
Those who've tres-passed a-gainst us!

Lead Us not into Temptation
But deliver Us from All Evil...!

Lead Us not into Temp-ta-tion-
But De-liv-er Us from All E-vil...!

For Thine is the Kingdom-
The Power & the Glory-
Forever and Ever – Amen!

For Thine is the Kingdom-
The Power & the Glory-
Forever and Ever – ...Amen!
…...............................................28-05-2013
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The prayer as it occurs in Matthew 6:9–13

Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

Wednesday, 29 May 2013

The journey to the Kingdom of Heaven...Eden...Shambala.

 
 
Our journey to Shambala ( the kingdom o heaven)has many obstacles. We cant force someone to love us - but we can learn to connect to the spirit of love to learn to love ourselves...in life we face many obstacles and even rejections... and humilations...but we should continue to believe in our higher selves... and believing in something better than what we want here and now leads us to all grace and truth...your true family are those who love you just as you are. accept you just as you are and dont reject the image of who they think you are... because you ARE love... so BE love... and just continue to love... and you will attract people who wish to receive the love you want to give...for we are beings who are born to love... and this is the secret to staying in love for God is love....and the place of Love is the place of God... shambala.
  The way to peace on earth and goodwill between men is by winning the war of ideology... people are not evil- ideology is...it is IN the battlefield of the human mind that we must win the war...not on the streets of london, bagdad and jerusalem. We can find our place of peace by identifying the wrong ideas..the stinking thinking...the evil ideology...
WE NEED TO INVEST IN JUSTICE NOT MISERY,FREEDOM NOT SLAVERY,LOVE NOT HATE... THIS IS THE WAR ON TERROR, THE TRUE WAR ON TERROR WHICH IS A WAR ON FEAR - AND THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IT... IS BY FAITH...BY THE POWER OF AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS ALREADY COME...THIS JOURNEY, THIS CARAVAN IS THE ELEVATION OF THE HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS AND THE ASCENSION OF THE HIGHER SELF BY THE HIGHER SELF AND THROUGH THE HIGHER SELF... BACK TO THE SOURCE. BACK TO THE TRUTH...BACK TO LIFE.BACK TO UNITY... BACK TO HUMANITY. back to God.
It is only by winning the war on ideology that we will bring peace to the middle east. Ignorance is the obstacle to equilibrium.
 proclaim freedom and live true religion by being your trueself.
 

CHRISTIANS UNDER FIRE: WAR ON TERROR OR WAR ON IDEOLOGY?-THAT IS THE QUES...


CHRISTIANS UNDER FIRE: WAR ON TERROR OR WAR ON IDEOLOGY?-THAT IS THE QUES...: WAR ON TERROR OR WAR ON IDEOLOGY...THAT IS THE QUESTION...! It is time to fight violence with peace and guns with pens - bullets with words MARTIN BUHAGIAR 

We know that the mainstream media moguls that run the news cycles because of their footprint do not have the last word - we do . They control the minds of the masses because they have a bigger impact - but they don’t control
The truth and never will - sooner or later they will fall as they always do . 

We shall never surrender ! 

WAR ON TERROR OR WAR ON IDEOLOGY?-THAT IS THE QUESTION!

WAR ON TERROR OR WAR ON IDEOLOGY...THAT IS THE QUESTION...!

Dedicated to  MARTIN BUHAGIAR

It is time to fight violence with peace and guns with pens - bullets with words and terrorism with good ideology..good ideas vs bad ideas. Imperialism and democratic dictatorships do not work in the long run..there comes a time when you need to let go of the pointless rhetoric and embrace the chaos and fight the evil ideology that is the wrong thinking...and in this way-this way... you will WIN the war! Can I get an amen?

Ok so here goes...wade through these definitions and then I will give you my take on it and my experience:

First some wikidictionary definitions. Some can be expanded on and I will do so - but here they are.


True religion begins in the heart... and is sanctified in the mind and expressed in the world. A man of God seeks peace and reconciliation and when he doesn't find it - or if he needs to defend himself from evil ideology... ( people are not evil- ideology is)- it s only then that you take up the sword... the Western secularist extremists are not helping their cause by spreading their evil ideology or using the local media to get more disciples... this is what Hitler did.

truth is truth is truth...it doe not change because of whoever is in power or whoever pulls the strings... truth is truth.And that is where we are now ...on a journey of truth. A war on ideology has replaced the war on terror because you cant tell the pigs from the men... or the men from the pigs and this animal farm has become truly aberrant. IT STINKS!!!!

From Latin saeculum era, age.
secularism (countable and uncountable; plural secularisms)A position that religious belief should not influence public and governmental decisions
The related political belief in the separation of church and state

muslim mean believer.
‘islām, “submission”).



Circa 1590, from Latin Christianus, from Ancient Greek Χριστιανός (Christianos), from Χριστός (Christos, “Christ, anointed one”) + -ιανός (-ianos, “of, related to”); as if Christ +‎ -ian.
CHRISTIAN:
A believer in Christianity.  [quotations ▼]
An individual who seeks to live his or her life according to the principles and values taught by Jesus Christ.
(Can we verify(+) this sense?) One born in a Christian country or of Christian parents, and who has not definitely becomes an adherent of an opposing system.
JEW:
from the stereotype of Jews as scheming merchants. Compare gyp (“swindle”) (which is probably from gypsy (“Roma”)), and welsh (“swindle by defaulting on a debt”), from Welsh.

IDEOLOGY:

From French idéologie, from idéo- + -logie (equivalent to English ideo- + -logy). Coined 1796 by Destutt de Tracy.[1][2] Modern sense of “doctrine” attributed to use of related idéologue (“ideologue”) by Napoleon Bonaparte as a term of abuse towards political opponents in early 1800s.
Noun

ideology (plural ideologies)

Doctrine, philosophy, body of beliefs or principles belonging to an individual or group.
The study of the origin and nature of ideas.
IDEA:

From Latin idea (“a (Platonic) idea; archetype”), from Ancient Greek ἰδέα (idea, “notion, pattern”), from εἴδω (eidō, “I see”).

idea (ideas or rare ideæ)

(philosophy) An abstract archetype of a given thing, compared to which real-life examples are seen as imperfect approximations; pure essence, as opposed to actual examples. [from 14th c.]
(obsolete) The conception of someone or something as representing a perfect example; an ideal. [16th-19th c.]
(obsolete) The form or shape of something; a quintessential aspect or characteristic. [16th-18th c.]  [quotations ▼]
An image of an object that is formed in the mind or recalled by the memory. [from 16th c.]

The mere idea of you is enough to excite me.

More generally, any result of mental activity; a thought, a notion; a way of thinking. [from 17th c.]

Ideas won't go to jail.—A. Whitney Griswold (1952)

TERROR:

From Old French terreur (“terror, fear, dread”), from Latin accusative terrorem (“fright, fear, terror”), from terrere (“to frighten, terrify”), from Proto-Indo-European *tre- (“to shake”), Proto-Indo-European *tres- (“to tremble”).

war on terror or war on ideology?



Islam actually means according to them - submission to God... peace with God... and in fact jihad is the 6th pillar of Islam sanctioned by Mohammed if the faith needs to defended- but it is a corporate strategy not necessarily the duty of every individual radicalized Muslim- again- some people will disagree with this definition- but ask yourself this question...what if you believed in peace...and a drone blew up your wife and children in mutilated bits and pieces... how would your ideology change? so who is the terrorist here? the secularist extremist or the Islamic extremist? who chops off a soldiers head on the streets of London... answer: BOTH ARE WRONG.

I believe that the war on terror is officially over. We are entering a NEW phase of terrorism and the war on terrorism which is completely different to the one that has passed.

It is no longer an entity or a body that we who believe in peace and love are entering... it is a WAR OF IDEAS. and more specifically ... a WAR OF IDEOLOGY.

Osama Bin Laden and his cronies, Al Qaeda and its satellites are all illusions... SMOKE AND MIRRORS... the Western secularists have been running around like headless chickens not really understanding the GREAT GAME AT ALL...and that is another completely different subject.

Ex secretary of state Mr Ruben?- during the Bush administration- after 9-11 said it was a "war of civilizations"... and George Bush coined the phrase "war on terror" and " axis of evil" WHICH SADLY TO SAY... IS NO LONGER A BELIEVABLE SOUND-BITE.

The only way to win any kind of terrorist war is to win in the realm of the mind and the heart. There is no other way for those who do not value life or do not fear death.

At the same time... why I say ideology is that in order to WIN this war for the heart of humanity... and the mind of humanity... any philosophy must have MORAL AUTHORITY.

And sad to say... America and Britain has really lost that moral authority of righteous outrage ever since the twin towers...


many dictators are pretty stupid and they lose the war by losing the moral authority and they in fact shoot themselves in the foot...


Hitler did it with the jews... Saddam Hussein did it "achmidinnerdad" lost it with his rhetoric against BLOWING Israel OFF THE MAP- and Qaddafi lost it with his threats of genocide...in Benghazi...

But OBAMA-...OBAMA has lost it with the terror caused by the indiscriminate drone attacks ON CIVILIANS -and failing to close Guantanamo TORTURE CAMP as he promised in 2009. IT IS A POCKMARK ON THE HISTORY OF SUCH A GREAT COUNTRY AND AN OTHERWISE GREAT PRESIDENT.IT IS EVIDENCE THAT OBAMA IS INDEED A PUPPET.

Muslims see Westerners as morally bankrupt...that is why you have things like Pakistani paedo gangs abusing English girls... they see us as morally bankrupt and " fair game"...

on the other hand... the secular extremists controlled by the Illuminati and the bilderbergers seek global domination and cant handle that they cant control hearts and minds .... they want everyone to " get with the programme" and if you don't ...well you're a terrorist or you're an enemy of the state...OR YOU'RE A NUTTER...!-

-and if you DO have the moral authority they will USE the system to fit you up- how? SIMPLE... THEY RUN IT...THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, THE SOCIAL SERVICES SYSTEM...EVERYTHING...

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But we are right now entering a new phase of the so called war on terror - which is already redundant- whereby individuals of ones , twos, threes and fours get radicalized on the Internet- and don't need to travel to some flea bitten desert camp in Somalia or Afghanistan to get training... they simply get trained to be a terrorist ... online...like they were getting trained to speak English or learn physics...

Anyone can write a book on successful terrorism and publish it online...

its terrorism online... and its about ideas... arguments and ideology...virtual terror camps...get it...its a new phase... a new kind of war.kapish?

MI 5 NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. If you're going to beat this new wave of terrorist ...the war must be fought to demolish arguments... UNDERMINE WRONG THINKING...Lets look at other places than the middle east or central Asia...

East AFRICA IS becoming a hotbed for terrorism because of intellectual sheiks appearing on TV in Zanzibar undermining what the Word of God says and proving Islam is a superior ideology... homegrown terrorists follow these arguments and are radicalized. ALL THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE...YOU DON'T NEED TO BECOME A TRAINED TERRORIST ANYMORE... ITS A FREE FOR ALL...!

The truth is theres NOT enough Christian intellectuals and others engaging the concepts the radicals use to justify their actions... and again...

Christians keep quiet about the torture and rendition camps and the indiscriminate drone killings of women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan... the desecration of corpses , the rapes by soldiers etc.

Its all part of the disinformation...THE MEDIA BLACKOUT THAT IS SO OBVIOUS IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA COMPANIES... and until we get this right... we certainly wont have a hope in hell of stopping terrorism from coming to our front doors....

As JFK once said: you cant fool all the people all the time...we are not all robots.

and the politicians need to get their heads out of the new world orders ass and their agenda and grow some balls...they are answerable to the people not to the Rockefeller and Rothschilds of this world... no matter how much they think they are not...they are.

When a foreign policy does not work...change it...stop it...

or how do you plan to win hearts and minds by playing DEUS EX video games from Virginia? When you kill another human being remotely- you objectify the death of that person... it is not only cowardly...it is cruel...it is not human...it is NAZI!

How are we any differnet to them when we employ these kind of tactics?

Come on...

YES-the drone phenomenon is something that has happened and has " worked" and now its time to stop. its time to put money into peace and PEACE SCHOOLS... Like the Jerusalem Peace Academy......where is the funding for peace? nowhere... why? because war and suffering sells.Misery and crime... pay.

I've been working for peace for 30 years now. I have NEVER got a penny for it...but I've done everything on my own budget... and theres many of us who do peacework and try to fix up your warmongers messups...and broken lives... you destroy...we heal... where is your empathy?

To win hearts and minds... you need to get your ideology correct.

Ive worked all these years and sacrificed so much... for what?For nothing...

and with NO gratitude I might add.ITS A THANKLESS UNPAID INGLORIOUS TASK TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM RADICALIZATION...BUT... I DO IT...AND I DO IT WELL. BUT THE TRUTH BE TOLD... WARMONGERS PREFER WAR... AND THATS A FACT YOU CAN TAKE TO THE BANK.

WHAT THIS WORLD NEEDS IS LESS GORE AND MORE HOPE! - or what do you think? What is more CALCULATING?... killing someone clinically or chopping off their heads in public?...

Its like buying something in a nicely wrapped package in the supermarket or butchering it yourself...we are disconnected with our food and almost surely disconnected with what horrors are going on in Afghanistan...

It still doesn't justify killing someone in cold blood... of course it doesn't... but thats what is happening in Asa- Iraq...Syria... Every day.


- the Germans thought they were being humane by killing Jews clinically in gas ovens... but when i visited Auschwitz I asked Myself : what kind of mind could create and design killing machines...efficient killing machines like this?...and i say the same about drones... efficient killing machines...what kind of mind could create such and evil method of killing...

-where innocent women and children are killed daily in the pursuit of the target and called ..." collateral damage"-

if this does radicalise...a moderate to becoming an extremist...what does? therefore, it is in the human mind that we must win this war...with HONESTY...WITH TRUTH...WITH LIGHT...WITH EQUILIBRIUM.

I recently spoke to some Palestinians who were being radicalized ...they said" in the old days ...Yasser Arafat would have given us a gun and said... go kill the Zionist!- nowadays our leaders... like Mohamed abbas fill their pockets with cash and do nothing about jobs- about peace- about freedom...they just talk...and talk and talk... and the youth suffer and suffer and suffer- unemployed and frustrated watching the flower of their young years get flushed down the toilet of indifference... corruption...conflict.

Of course dialogue is necessary...

and another boy said to me : robin, all i want to do is get on a bus and have an ice cream in tel aviv and see my Jewish girlfriend- go on the beach and a nightclub... I don't want to be stuck in this open prison...watching my people being humiliated every day...

and where does the idea begin to build a wall a prison camp or whatever... ?

it all begins with ideology... and where does the idea begin to blow yourself up in a nightclub and kill indiscriminately?... it comes form ideas and ideology...

the jew thinks hes superior... the muslim thinks hes superior...and the Christian - sits in the middle debating which is right...

But there is a fourth element in this war on ideology... it is the secularist extremist who makes the decisions to blow up civilians in Pakistan or Afghanistan... whose taskmasters are the rockefellers and others in the top of the pyramid...who have held the purse strings and the powerstrings...for generations...since napoleon or even before...

its the puppetmasters that run the show... and they watch us fighting... and they implement their own ideology...secularism...

why?

because they hate anyone who says.... my God is right and your God is wrong.They want to bring the Antichrist to rule us all and unite all the spiritual powers and principalities...-but even if that were not true... its about global domination and the global government ...and the direction we are being led in... its time the puppetmasters release abundance on this earth...explode conspiracy theories and come to the light...if you want to do something about something... stop deceiving us all.

The waterloo principle is redundant. WE NOW HAVE INSTANT INFORMATION...ON TAP.But even then... somehow the global system was undermined until the stockmarket crashed at the top end of the financial bubble where the banks had to shed their leverage...

but this story -it is even more profound... it is about the right to rule... because of what is perceived supreme intelligence.

and the belief which is almost religious in its nature...that WE are right..we have the right to rule... and to control... because WE KNOW BEST... OUR GOD IS RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG...

and yes, you can draw some of this from the free masons...but they are only the peons... its the global elite who really set the entire agenda...

I'm talking about toppling governments, media propaganda outlets trying to brainwash the masses , food control...oil...war machines etc...

and of course the banking system...

its all pretty common knowledge.

so what then do we do?

WE WIN THE WAR OF IDEAS. THATS WHAT A TRUE DEMOCRACY IS ALL ABOUT.

DIALOGUE- DEBATE-ENGAGE-DISCUSS- INTERCOURSE... ( SOCIAL) -democracy.

Ive been involved with Rainbow movement for 25 years now and thats what we do around a campfire...we talk...we get to know each other in the nature... natural enemies becoming common friends...

and it works... but do we get paid for it? not a penny...in fact we get persecuted for it by people who are simply ignorant.

no, to win this war on terror, we need to win the war on ideology... ask Ahmed Deedat and all those who try to win their arguments of superiority against Christianity and against the secularists...

But it must work hand in hand with the political will of the politicians and the financial will of the bankers... this is the way to win a lasting peace.

Its time to rethink our entire strategy.

" there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come!"

Ideas change the world... the spaceship going to the moon was an idea... building the pyramids began as an idea... it all begins and ends with ideas...and that is where we are now...

there is no more military solution between Islam and the West. Between Religion and Secularism.

It simply does not work.The war is over... or is it?- perhaps misery and blood-letting is such good business that we need to keep the whole world in poverty to pay for these expensive wars that achieve little or nothing and in fact create terrorists..radicalise whole villages at a time...

so WHO are the terrorists? WHO ARE THE CRIMINALS? ... Those who kill...or those who create the evil inhuman ideology?...or both?... society pays for the fracturing of its freedom. People will never - never believe anything the sun newspaper says when they know different...

if you are going to win this war on terror ...you must win the war of ideology first. And indeed..recognise where you yourself are intolerant and aberrated... indeed the question and the answers all begin and end with the actions of those who act with courage...

but-maybe ... there is another way? The battleground of the human mind.

This is the only way to " win" any war.

war on terror or war on ideology- that is the question!

I thank you

Paul R Denton